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“NowSkyare involved itcould beCity’s downfall. Does Murdoch know he’stakingon 30,000 miserable gets?”
The German players were lim bering up like an hour before the game, doing leap-frogging and gymnastics. Then they showed an interview with someone from the Bulgarian staffon these massive screens around the ground and he said, “ I’m just glad we've all turned up. We only had nine men half an hour ago.”
In the stadium they were trying to be nice to everyone and they brought in these guys with red caps all dressed like Michael Jackson as extra security. We were in the German end and in the middle ofthe game this South American film crew come and sit in front o f us, and I’m askingthem to move. This red cap comes up and asks me what’swrong, then a policeman comes over and he brings overthis guy from the US soccer federation who looks like Ronald Reagan with whitehairand he’ssayingthings like "Is your seat not comfortable sir?” And I’m saying no, it's fine, it’s just this film crew. Then he says “Ah. You’re not German are you sir?" I th ink they had this idea that football was like some germ from Europe that m ight infectthem.
Do you play yourself? I’ve started playingagain. I’m a central defender. I like tackling, but when I play Iwalk.
Like Franz Beckenbauer... Similar. I trip people, tap them on the shin. But I don’t like the niggling little fouls they do now, all that shirt pulling. The annoying th ing about that Beckham foul in the World Cup, when he got sent off, was he hardly even kicked him. Ifyou’re goingto kick them, kick them.
The Fall used to have a team, we’d play university teams before gigs. We played the Icicle Works when we were both in this hotel in London. There were eight or nine in our team, the group and couple o f roadies. This guy called B igDavefrom Lincolnshire, who was like the fattest lad you’ve ever seen, went in goal. And they turned up in replica Liverpool kits w ith “The Icicle Works” on the front and they’ve got this mock European Cup with them.
Itwas 20 m inutes each way and we went 5-4 in front in injury tim e and their tour manager's the referee, so it went on and on until they won 6-5. It'd gone dark by the tim e we finished and in the bar they’re telling all the music journos they’ve won and passingthe European Cuparound...
Have you had any encounters with football hooligans? It seems to me that the fascination with rough lads we’ve got now is a very middle class thing. They’re from small places, but not impoverished places e ith e r-
stockbrokers who can forget about being new dads for a day and have a fight. It's a sado-masochism thing, wanting to be hit. It’s like the kid at school who was always h ittin g people, you just knew he was acloset case. I used to getitontrainscom ingdownto London. They get on at M ilton Keynes and they’re staring you out and all this.
I remember Man City had this group called The Main Line Service Crew. We were on a train on a Saturday afternoon going down for a gig and they were asking us ifw e were City or United and all that. And I said, "Hold on, it ’s three o ’clock, City are at home today. What are you doing here?” And they were goingto Spurs or somewhere to try and cause trouble at half time, then they’d be back up on the train to get to Maine Road when the away fans are coming out. That’sthe sort o f mentality they’ve got.
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